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so

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um

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three words advanced aerial threat

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who in the cia nsa dia

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tells at least the united states of

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america that we're not alone in this

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universe we have never been alone in

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the us government really has kept that

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secret not only from the american people

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which is bad enough but even kept it

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from itself

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the ufo community has been portrayed as

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conspiracy theorists and tin foil hats

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and we're crazy

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and the government is now admitting that

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uh ufos are real and disclosure is here

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suddenly they're our friend

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no america's defense establishment is

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finally admitting

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some of what it knows

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this could have been a chance to say

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we're going to collaborate with the

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representatives of the people in what is

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supposed to be a government of by and

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for the people

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if what they tell you is the truth

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there is no need to withhold it from

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public

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we've entered a quantum age making a

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leap not only in technology but also in

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consciousness companies are now creating

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non-sentient replacement humans they

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look just like you and i

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they're intended for customer service

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and things such as that but these neons

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as they're called could be more

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nefarious than that

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we're dealing with a fight there are

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forces behind the scenes that doesn't

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want any of this information to come out

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there's still a lot of truth that has

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yet to be revealed

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it was one of those quote-unquote men in

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black but i i realize it's probably

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better now to be when there's men in

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bringing truth to the topic

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the problem with the truth is the truth

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wow good evening everybody how are you

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this is an amazing night i'm coming to

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you live from the bunker

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and uh

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tonight is a very very very special

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presentation

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that we are doing uh for and about

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the observers and for all of you who are

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observers

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and throughout the community

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the observers hashtag observer hashtag

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observers

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get the movement

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right now get involved get started the

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observers is an amazing film and it's an

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honor and a privilege for me

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your host of uh fade to black

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to to help in the making of the film as

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a producer

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and also to get a little bit of face

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time to get my thoughts out there uh

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that

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i've been just yelling and screaming

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about to the best of my ability with

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pipes that i have to get the message out

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to the world and this film

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it's perfect it's perfect timing it's

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got a perfect cast

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and a a an amazing director a team

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behind it

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and we brought together the best and the

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brightest uh

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that that have been out there and

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fighting as an observer

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uh for our community for a very very

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long time so this is what we're doing

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we're streaming on multiple platforms

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and i i came in tonight and we're going

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to be doing a few of these by the way

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this is the first uh we've got a great

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setup tonight

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uh uh chris is engineering uh from the

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east coast and is uh is is directing

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this entire presentation

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um and we've got a different format than

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what you're used to here on on fade to

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block 2 as well where i've got people

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working for me tonight and

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it's going to be great it's going to be

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visually stunning and it's going to be a

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great conversation i'm just the host

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i don't i don't i don't have to have a

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real job tonight

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the real job

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is going to be handled by director roger

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r richards and i would like to bring in

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roger now

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and uh and say welcome

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and uh roger is going to be sitting down

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and i get to uh roger welcome how are

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you tonight sir i'm doing great jimmy

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thanks man it's good to see you brother

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and always remember a good director

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a great director does more i mean never

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forget that

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have been leading this charge now you've

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been laser focused on all of this for

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over 10 years you've been an activist

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for much longer than that

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but this film this production

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this this gathering of mines at this

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point in history

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the timing just couldn't have been

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we got it done with your direction we

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got it done as a team

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it's here and and the movement has

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started how do you feel

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i think it's incredible to see what came

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together at a time where you know this

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topic is is really on the forefront of

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you know everyone's conversations right

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now like the ability for the mainstream

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media to be covering this um you know

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conversation and haul the types of

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things that are coming out in these

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reports for example that you know were

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happening why we were making this film

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it was an exhilarating experience

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because none of us really knew where

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this was ending up you know we were

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right in the the middle of this being

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released at the time you know people

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were still wondering if we were going to

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get the full report at those times you

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know the other things were coming out

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and so it was a really incredible

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experience to just work with you know

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some of the most amazing

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minds and researchers and experience

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channeling that into a piece of you know

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art that is this film here and what came

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out of it and the whole team you know

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pouring their hearts in love and you

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know connection into this film this this

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film is made by people that are

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experiences it's made by people that are

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researchers it's made by people in this

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community and it's part of a direct

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action you know movement out there to

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raise awareness to bring these things to

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the the the top of people's

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consciousness and the understanding of

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it's not just on fox news it's not just

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on cnn that you know these these things

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are being acknowledged there is a whole

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movement of people that have been having

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anomalous experiences observers all over

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the world that have seen things out of

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place that don't make sense experience

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technology in some form or another

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beyond what you know is is out in the

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public and that is what's canonized in

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the film and i think all of us really

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kind of poured our heart and love into

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the community to create that

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conversation and make it as relevant as

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to the aggregate of all the things that

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are now under the umbrella of what is

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disclosure and the observer movement

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and i want to thank you for for all of

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your hard work and the other thing is uh

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for me

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is i interview that's my job i interview

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i'm an interviewer

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i interview and i was able to uh sit

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and watch you uh take over

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and and interview and create

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conversations with the entire cast and

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it was amazing to see your style now

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richard now here's the deal

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um richard and i have uh

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every possible question when it comes to

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conversation that i was there for

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on the way that you two were able to

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interact with each other now before i

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what i'm referring to now uh our

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get to enjoy roger's

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interview chops in conversation style uh

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once again here with you uh richard

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how how great was it to not have me

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asking questions for a change and and

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you get you get a mind like roger to

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and and pull things out of you

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never talked to roger never had a

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i truly did not know what to expect

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i was very impressed by the quality of

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the questions that you asked me roger

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obvious immediately that you had done a

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great deal of thinking about the subject

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of ufos in general

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like you must have done some kind of

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background research on my own personal

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interests and i think you just you did a

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lot of homework beforehand it really

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showed and then what i was realizing

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even while we were interviewing is

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you were obviously doing this with

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everyone

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and what i was interested in at the time

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that we were doing the questions last

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where is this guy going to go with this

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like i really didn't know how you would

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lay out the direction of this

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not fully so it was interesting when i

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finally did get to see a screener i

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thought oh wow this is great you

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actually had this wonderful way of of

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presenting layers of this subject and

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you're starting with one layer and then

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we go to a deeper layer and then a

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deeper layer and then a deeper layer and

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then by the time we get to the end of

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really is what it is

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uh you'd gone really deep and it was all

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because of the way you had structured

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the interviews i think so that was a

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real testament to

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your vision i think it turned out very

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well

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i'm gonna back out of here i want to

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kick back and enjoy this evening you

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guys behave have a great conversation

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and i'll circle back and uh wrap things

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up when i'm ready to break in and

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interrupt when i can't take it anymore

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fair enough yes thank you jesus great

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jimmy

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i'll see you guys in a bit okay later

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man

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yeah i was just kind of hearing

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everything you were saying and um you

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know richard like for for me to be able

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to go through and understand your work

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and to to look at the things that you've

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contributed to

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this community this movement to the

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thought bubble this collective

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conversation of people that are trying

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to understand things that you know are

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at this moment you know unexplainable

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and so for me like i i had very similar

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you know feelings of you know even

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intimidation going up against you know

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somebody that has spent uh you know the

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majority of their academic adult you

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know career into seriously researching

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this and taking it seriously um despite

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all of the constant you know criticisms

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from mainstream and and just all of the

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you know the ways they try to downplay

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the subject to me like it has so much

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integrity to be able to do that and

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stick with that and then when i got into

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understanding more about

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you and and really kind of what that

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sack for you as an academic and also in

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in your world in that space and the

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sacrifice that you made to to step into

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that role to to be that archetype in

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this moment and now i thought that was

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incredibly touching and and one of the

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things that um you know that really

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stood out too was your your care for the

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united states

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like your care for this country and

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understanding you know how incredibly uh

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unique we are in the global stream of

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things and why disclosure ties to that

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uh those are all things that just

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fascinated me and and to be perfectly

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honest when i got to the cutting room

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floor with all of you guys you know i

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had 20 plus hours of footage or

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something it was it was a nightmare just

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trying to select the the things that

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just absolutely needed to be in there

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under a time you know restraint because

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there was so much stuff and so we've

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just been

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releasing that to the public you know

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chunk and chunks so we can kind of have

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the full conversations for anybody

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that's you know interested in kind of

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getting behind that but i wanted to just

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bring that type of conversation that you

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and i had there which you know jimmy has

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just talked about my style uh i just

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wanted to share that with you here

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tonight and and just kind of explore the

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things that didn't make it into the film

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necessarily but um and then also expound

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on that and so one of the things like i

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kind of wanted to open up the floor with

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is you know that there has been

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you know every single social justice

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movement you know has has come and gone

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based off of a crew a collective of

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people in a counter culture that's you

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know kind of bubbling up in the form of

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some type of resistance and the ufo

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community and the ufology topic is so uh

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powerful in regards to what it could

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mean to humanity why do you feel like

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there hasn't been a movement really

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until now that takes it seriously to try

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to push instead of wait for disclosure

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but actually pull it out

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well there there have been movements in

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the past like we're not the first

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um i would say

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it's gone farther further now than it

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has gone in the past but i mean i think

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it's worth worth pointing out that even

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as early as the 1950s

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there were people who were very engaged

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in the ufo subject

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um you know they were you know the first

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ufo or civilian organizations that

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started up during that decade uh one of

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them in particular known as nycap was

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absolutely committed

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to ending ufo secrecy at least in the

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best way that they could do it they were

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all about getting congressional hearings

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on ufos and trying to get that in public

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uh there was one opportunity in the

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early 1960s where it looked like nycap

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might be able to do it and then the rug

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was pulled out from underneath them at

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the 11th hour

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they were going up against some very

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very difficult opposit opposition

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obviously you have the same uh crescendo

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that developed in the 1960s where it

402
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looked as though we there might be this

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opening for a kind of disclosure people

404
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were not using the word at that time but

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an admission by the government that this

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subject was real and that ended up in

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something called the condon committee

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which was a pseudo i would say pseudo

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scientific

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uh

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analysis of the ufo subject that

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essentially ended up debunking it in the

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late 60s

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and then you know there were there were

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various assertive types of attempts in

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later decades of the 20th century to get

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this thing going

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none of them really came to much you get

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the disclosure movement uh in 2001 that

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was led by dr stephen greer

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folks like danny sheehan were very much

422
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but and then steve bassett comes along

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in you know the early 21st century with

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his ex conferences this this movement's

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been

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attempt

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but it's true when you say like it never

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got traction

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um i've given this a lot of thought

430
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myself as to why and i think what you're

431
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really dealing with is the most

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significant cover-up of modern times is

433
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the ufo cover-up i think it comes down

434
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simply to that you've got a situation

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starting with the 1940s where the united

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states

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national security community explicitly

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organized with major media

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all the media outlets that existed back

440
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then and as they evolved to to ridicule

441
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and to dismiss and debunk this subject

442
00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:11,600
and so that there was just no breathing

443
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,799
space there's no oxygen for ufo research

444
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in a public domain to go anywhere and it

445
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was

446
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relegated to the fringes it couldn't get

447
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into the academic world so there was no

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official

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uh sanct uh sanctified

450
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uh official stamp of approval there

451
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um

452
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and it didn't get any scientific funding

453
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you can't do science if there's no money

454
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,200
and there's no money for this in that

455
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:37,679
realm so it just could never get off the

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ground

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so to speak

458
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and frankly i think it's only has

459
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changed

460
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uh in the last four

461
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,280
years with the efforts of the group ttsa

462
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to the stars academy of arts and

463
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sciences we're talking tom delong

464
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:54,400
christopher mellen lou alzondo and all

465
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of those folks

466
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:58,080
uh help off who

467
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you know it still amazes me to this day

468
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:00,960
how there are people who say that's a

469
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:03,360
cia disinformation up i'm like are you

470
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,480
kidding me man these people actually

471
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:08,240
no one else

472
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,799
in the history of ufology was able to

473
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,200
move that needle at all in the public

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conversation until they came along

475
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whatever else one says

476
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they got the disclosure conversation

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going they were able to get uh three

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videos declassified from the pentagon

479
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which was done in a very clever way it

480
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turns out and not without opposition

481
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from within the pentagon

482
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uh they were the ones who were able to

483
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connect with the new york times leslie

484
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klein and ralph blumenthal to get

485
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coverage so so i think what what we were

486
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seeing in the last four years is a

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is a breakthrough by genuinely

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interested people

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who had their own reasons for wanting to

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promote some truthfulness on ufos

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and

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for the rest of the very highly

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controlled establishment media which we

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are still are still dealing with of

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course

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uh so we're in a different era but i

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would i would hasten to add i do not

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believe

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that we're out of the woods here uh i do

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not believe that there's some inevitable

501
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,320
disclosure that we're going to be

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looking at from any kind of government

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sources i i don't think so i think if we

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ever see anything like that it will be

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when they are just they've got no choice

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their backs are pushed to the wall and

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they are going to be forced to admit

508
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something but right now they haven't

509
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done it

510
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there are several red lines that have

511
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not been crossed and probably the most

512
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important one is that of a real cover-up

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a real conspiracy that's not been

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acknowledged

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um if we can get to a point where

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there's an acknowledgement of of actual

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00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:42,480
technology like flying saucers

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technology or bodies

519
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then you go to cover up and that's going

520
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to be a very difficult hurdle for anyone

521
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to want to cross because

522
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we're in an era of a global totalitarian

523
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:56,080
genuinely fascist digital revolutions

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happening all around us and in that area

525
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,960
this new era you're not supposed to

526
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,200
believe in conspiracy theories the ufo

527
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,360
cover-up is the greatest conspiracy

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00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,880
theory of all time

529
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,640
i mean honestly what's bigger than that

530
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,000
so so

531
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:12,480
for me to wait to imagine that there's

532
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,750
official acknowledgement it's like don't

533
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,360
believe in conspiracy theories well

534
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:21,120
except the ufo one okay that's true but

535
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:22,400
none of the other like that's just not

536
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:23,440
going to happen

537
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:25,679
i i can't see that voluntarily happening

538
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,159
so i think what we're likely to see is a

539
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,000
continued watering down of the ufo

540
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:32,240
subject which i think we are seeing

541
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and

542
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as much of a walking back

543
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,600
from the precipice of acknowledgement of

544
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a cover-up

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00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,480
as possible and

546
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,000
it you know it won't be an easy thing to

547
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,640
do because there's been there have been

548
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,840
admissions

549
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,600
that have been made and it's going to be

550
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,880
difficult to walk them all back but

551
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,960
we're in a very controlled media

552
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:51,840
uh

553
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,080
you know google youtube control things

554
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,640
greater than they've ever done before

555
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,240
i think it's entirely possible that this

556
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:01,360
can be managed even at this point

557
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,799
i couldn't agree more i don't know if

558
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:04,000
that answered your question no it

559
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:05,679
definitely it definitely got into the

560
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,039
conversation that's going to keep on

561
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,520
going around that and um you know the

562
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,039
one of the things too i just kind of

563
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,120
want to highlight is that the the people

564
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,120
that have laid the groundwork like you

565
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,200
had said and highlighted you know going

566
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,400
back to the you know the 1930s 40s 50s

567
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,240
all the way up till today you know

568
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,480
people like dr greer disclosure project

569
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,600
and and you know tom delong etc and ttsa

570
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:30,000
these people have you know laid the way

571
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,400
for kind of where things are evolving

572
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,320
now and then the other side of that is

573
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,000
the movement the grassroots movement of

574
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:38,559
people experiencers um that are in the

575
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,720
millions around the world have

576
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,360
experienced this exotic technology uh

577
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,440
you know in some form another whether

578
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,279
it's just seeing it in the sky or it's

579
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,080
having you know a close encounter or an

580
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,760
experience with uh you know what they

581
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,840
claim to be extraterrestrial beings or

582
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:55,679
or beings that are they

583
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,440
they are the important missing pieces of

584
00:24:03,029 --> 00:23:59,440
this puzzle and it's really really good

585
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,039
that you in in the observers

586
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:05,360
you know brought at least some

587
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:07,039
reasonable attention to these people

588
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:08,320
because

589
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,640
ufo uap discussion today is exactly this

590
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,720
element this the really difficult

591
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,720
questions are not being raised at all

592
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,559
we're still at this oh geez there's

593
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,480
something out there are there aliens

594
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,159
like my god we're in the like

595
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,120
pre-kindergarten level of discussion

596
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:29,039
relating to this subject and what is

597
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,720
actually happening is that

598
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,880
millions and millions of people have

599
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,039
interacted with this phenomenon in many

600
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,080
cases it's been the most extraordinary

601
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,480
sometimes traumatic but sometimes

602
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,640
incredible experience of their lives

603
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:44,159
and yet they talk to no one about it

604
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:45,679
because it's like oh you can't talk

605
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,640
about ufos so think about what it does

606
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,960
to a certain someone's personality and

607
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,559
their psychology like this incredible

608
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:54,159
thing happens to you

609
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,279
and you tell what no one or maybe maybe

610
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,440
a couple of friends i mean it's it's

611
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,919
there's something wrong with that so so

612
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,600
that that's important and then the fact

613
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:05,200
is

614
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,679
are by some other intelligence and who

615
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:13,840
the hell are they like we're not asking

616
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,159
that question nearly enough are they

617
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:18,000
good guys are they not good guys are

618
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,520
they here to help us are they not here

619
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,600
to help us uh sometimes that's difficult

620
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,600
to know but like we need to be asking

621
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,960
and then we want to know like what are

622
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,559
they actually doing

623
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:29,279
when when people encounter these beings

624
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,000
certain things are clearly happening

625
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:34,159
and we need to be talking about that and

626
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,200
in fact

627
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,440
i think that element of the ufo

628
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,760
discussion is as

629
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,279
i don't want to say it's disappeared

630
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,279
entirely in the last four years but it's

631
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,320
really gone to the back burner

632
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:48,080
where we're talking about these military

633
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,919
uap encounters

634
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,720
now

635
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,320
i'm personally very interested in that

636
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:53,840
that was probably the first thing that

637
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,919
got me engaged with the ufo subject were

638
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,200
military

639
00:26:03,750 --> 00:25:59,840
encounters but the fact is where the

640
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,760
rubber truly hits the road is in person

641
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,400
being to be in contact it's like what's

642
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,400
happening when we're meeting with these

643
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,120
beings and what are they all about

644
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,310
this highly like

645
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:18,240
deep and artistic treatment i just i

646
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,600
think it is an artistic treatment that

647
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,520
you did here with the observers why

648
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,440
that's important because

649
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:25,840
you ask a lot of those key questions

650
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:28,480
this is a subject ufo subject is as a

651
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,520
steep

652
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,720
this is the thing like a lot of

653
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:34,720
skeptical people especially like the

654
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,880
smart skeptics are the worst the smart

655
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,480
skeptics are actually the dumbest

656
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,960
skeptics that i find honestly and you

657
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,320
know why it's because

658
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,919
they've got a good education and they've

659
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:45,520
got good scientific training and then

660
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,559
they assume that oh yeah ufos no biggie

661
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,919
i'm going to waltz in here and i've got

662
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,679
it all figured out and they don't get

663
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,120
they don't have it figured out this

664
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:56,240
subject is vastly more complex than they

665
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,880
have any idea

666
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,240
and so

667
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,559
yeah the learning curve is steep and

668
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,320
don't just think you can waltz in here

669
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,919
and like you're going to master it in a

670
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,000
couple of months i had that fond foolish

671
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,159
idea more than 25 years ago i thought oh

672
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,400
yeah i'll figure this out is this a

673
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,159
thing is this not a thing and the next

674
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,760
thing i knew like i'm you know i'm in

675
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,360
quicksand here this is like this is a

676
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,279
seriously deep subject that has

677
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,360
implications for everything

678
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:22,799
so um

679
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,600
it's it takes time

680
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:27,120
to

681
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,240
of what this subject means it prompts us

682
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,080
to ask some of the most important deep

683
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,679
questions of human existence like what

684
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:36,960
the hell are we

685
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,679
what are we have we been manipulated by

686
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,960
these other beings are we being

687
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,799
manipulated by them now that's a fair

688
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,240
question to ask

689
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,960
and maybe yes it may be no but

690
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,559
one should be asking that question

691
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,440
frankly and then how many of them are

692
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:53,760
here what's their infrastructure why are

693
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,399
there ships as large as small cities

694
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,640
that are sometimes seen up there and and

695
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,000
what are they doing detaching these

696
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,600
smaller craft what the hell are these

697
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,360
beings doing in these little small

698
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,880
cities that sometimes are being seen

699
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,440
these motherships uh why are they being

700
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:09,120
seen under the oceans

701
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:09,919
like

702
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:14,000
good lord there's so much going on here

703
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,679
and and then what's their mental

704
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,440
capability how are they able to get

705
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:19,679
inside our heads because they surely do

706
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,240
seem to be able at times to get inside

707
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,720
our heads and to manipulate our emotions

708
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,360
impair or enhance maybe our cognitive

709
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:29,360
faculties when they wish to do so like

710
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,799
all of this

711
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,480
like these are just some of the most awe

712
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:34,000
inspiring questions

713
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,799
and

714
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,480
we don't hear any of this

715
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,640
in the you know the

716
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,559
ridiculously low level mainstream

717
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,159
establishment media conversations that

718
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,080
are taking place here and i understand

719
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,640
like you got to do baby steps but

720
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:49,279
uh this this topic is a lot more serious

721
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,279
than just is the navy encountering

722
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,840
unknown drone uap aircraft most

723
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,919
definitely and i think we'll get into

724
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,559
kind of what this topic encompasses as

725
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,480
far as an umbrella and what falls under

726
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:02,320
that here you know when we come back for

727
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,600
a break we're going to take a break

728
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,520
right now and then we'll be back here in

729
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:07,120
five minutes and we'll explore that

730
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:24,149
about a year later

731
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,679
i was in western pennsylvania

732
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:29,919
and i was doing a little event there i'm

733
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,559
at my little table selling some books

734
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,080
and this woman and her husband come up

735
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,679
to my table

736
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:37,360
she was like 60

737
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,720
at the time this is in 2010.

738
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,480
and she said i hope you don't mind i'd

739
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,120
like to tell you a story

740
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,000
and she says when i was 15 years old

741
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,159
i was living in western pennsylvania not

742
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,320
far from where we were

743
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:54,799
i was in church with my mother

744
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,760
this is 1965.

745
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,600
she said in our town

746
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,919
everyone knew everyone especially in

747
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,919
church catholic mass

748
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:06,720
where we all knew each other

749
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:09,679
and i'm with my mom and in front of me

750
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,480
is this blonde couple

751
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:14,480
super model gorgeous

752
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,640
man and a woman in perfect blue clothing

753
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,720
now she's 15 years old she's studying

754
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:22,320
their clothing she's totally into it she

755
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,919
says the fabric was unlike anything i'd

756
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,120
ever seen

757
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,039
she said this couple

758
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,200
stood out like a sore thumb like

759
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:33,279
everyone had to notice them but she said

760
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,960
no one was looking at them i couldn't

761
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,200
believe it she says

762
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,679
so i'm fixated on them during the mass

763
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,840
and she said and then i heard them in my

764
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,000
mind

765
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,320
and what she heard was one

766
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:48,399
thinking to the other

767
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,000
well we appear to be fitting in pretty

768
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:52,080
well here

769
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:53,440
and then the other one

770
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,559
thinks back

771
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:55,440
yes

772
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,880
except for the girl behind us who can

773
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,480
hear us

774
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,559
is what she said to me

775
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,840
so that's all she could hear from them

776
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,600
for the rest of the mass then mess and

777
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:06,080
oh by the way she said

778
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,279
yeah they didn't really seem like to

779
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:08,880
know like they didn't seem to know what

780
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,840
to do

781
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,399
in a catholic mass like sit nail sign of

782
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,840
the cross all of that stuff like they're

783
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,440
looking around they're figuring it out

784
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,559
they they didn't fit in when the mass

785
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,840
ended

786
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:21,519
they got up and out

787
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,039
so out of the church and she

788
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:27,360
decides to follow them

789
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:29,919
mom's oblivious she's like get back here

790
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,880
young lady where do you think you're

791
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,360
going and she just goes

792
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:35,440
fighting her way through the crowd

793
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,240
she sees this couple leave the church

794
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:40,159
she sees them going across a parking lot

795
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,279
fast

796
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,600
and she's trotting off after them they

797
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,360
go over this little hill

798
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,360
she gets to the top of the hill and she

799
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:49,679
sees them going across this green

800
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,519
uh little field toward a wooded area

801
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:55,679
they're going into woods

802
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:57,919
not to a parking lot not to their car

803
00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:00,399
they're going into this woods

804
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,080
and she starts down the hill after them

805
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,880
and then she stops dead in her tracks

806
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,440
because she said i saw a third person at

807
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,760
the edge of the woods she said

808
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,760
remember lurch from the addams family he

809
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,760
looked just like that guy

810
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,519
very tall

811
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,399
like a man in black black hat suit

812
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,679
scared her

813
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,159
and she stopped and she saw this

814
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,640
blonde nordic supermodel alien couple

815
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:26,720
whatever they were go into the woods

816
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,440
lurch turns around follows them in

817
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:30,720
and that's the end of her story and i'm

818
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:42,590
[Music]

819
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,430
well that was a great little clip there

820
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:55,440
um you know just going back and looking

821
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,000
at that stuff it says that the the host

822
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:59,760
has my mic muted still i don't know if

823
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:00,960
you guys can hear me out there just

824
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,200
double checking but um if the host wants

825
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,880
to go ahead and unmute me if that is

826
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:07,440
clear there but anyhow richard uh can

827
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,519
you hear me here are we clear

828
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:11,519
i i hear you can you hear me yes i've

829
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:13,519
got you excellent okay great let's see

830
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:17,039
the same sign yeah totally yeah so uh i

831
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,640
don't know if we're we're muted here

832
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,240
chris or if we're not muted but we're

833
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,399
gonna go ahead and um just kind of get

834
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:24,880
into the conversation here so looking at

835
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,039
that clip there this was you know this

836
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,039
was so incredible because you know chris

837
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,200
chose that clip here tonight um you know

838
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,039
amongst all the other cutting room floor

839
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,039
stuff you know to be able to kind of put

840
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,200
out there and this is an exact example

841
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,360
of what i was saying at the end when you

842
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,720
know i'm sitting there with all of this

843
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,240
footage with all of you guys and trying

844
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,240
to figure out like oh my gosh like what

845
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:46,080
what really makes this 90 minute cut

846
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:48,399
yeah stuff like this that had to go and

847
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,000
so one of the things that stood out to

848
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:52,080
me about that clip is is you know the

849
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,840
conversation around the implications of

850
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,600
what this means to catholics or what

851
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,960
this means to christian communities or

852
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:58,720
what this means to you know religious

853
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:01,440
communities in whole around the world

854
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:03,679
the idea of making contact with

855
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,480
something outside of of uh you know our

856
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,800
world our known human bodies here what

857
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,639
what what we have you know come to

858
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,119
understand is the only life supposedly

859
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:15,760
that is here at the at this moment and

860
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,919
you know it was six or so years ago i

861
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,000
think pope francis had you know had said

862
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,839
openly that he was willing to baptize

863
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,000
you know martians at that it was the

864
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,320
term i think that he used and so what it

865
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,760
what are your thoughts around the

866
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,240
religious implications of this as far as

867
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:32,240
the movement goes if we're out there

868
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:33,839
pushing to pull this stuff out and

869
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,079
you've got you know your families are

870
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,760
tied to these things and and this type

871
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,520
of stuff could burst their bubbles or

872
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,520
challenge them in certain ways what are

873
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,040
your thoughts on how we can navigate

874
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,040
that as a community or how you navigate

875
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:46,960
that in your own life in your own family

876
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,480
and world yeah that's a great question

877
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:52,960
uh i'll answer it first personally by

878
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,200
the way that story i'm just i was

879
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:57,920
surprised to hear that story uh in clip

880
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,240
form like that and uh

881
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,320
that's not the only such story that's

882
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,480
come to me like that over the years but

883
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:06,480
anyway yeah that's that was an amazing

884
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:07,599
thing

885
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,000
uh in terms of like how

886
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:13,119
the presence of these other beings would

887
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:14,400
affect

888
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,119
uh our our sense of spirituality or what

889
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,119
we would call religion like i think

890
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:21,599
about this with me um you know i've

891
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:24,079
developed my own spiritual beliefs over

892
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:25,359
the years

893
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,599
um i don't know if the existence of

894
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,880
other beings has much of an impact

895
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,280
on my own sense of spirituality however

896
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,200
so and i and i wonder

897
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,839
if it really would for

898
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,000
um it would for some people yes

899
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,480
absolutely i mean you've got you've got

900
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,240
religious communities whether christian

901
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:46,320
or non-christian there's muslim

902
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,599
communities there's

903
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,079
orthodox uh jewish communities perhaps

904
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:52,400
that might you know there's a lot of uh

905
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:53,280
like

906
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,200
strict religious

907
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,320
communities that at least conceivably

908
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:00,880
uh one could imagine would would have

909
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,079
some pushback against

910
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,000
accepting

911
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:07,839
how to accept these other beings i mean

912
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:09,520
obviously with the christian uh some

913
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,960
christian communities like it's very

914
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:13,839
obvious there would be a contingent that

915
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,720
would see these beings as demonic

916
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:19,200
and they would they will never be

917
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,640
reconciled

918
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,800
to the presence of these beings it's

919
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:24,480
never going to happen and that's that's

920
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,040
going to be an interesting thing um

921
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,760
however that work develops because i

922
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,960
think there's no question that there

923
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,240
will be

924
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:34,079
a group of humans and they won't all be

925
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:35,680
religious by the way there will be a

926
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,880
group of humans that will be the

927
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,960
unreconcilables

928
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:41,119
they will be the new hashtag resistance

929
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,800
if there is any kind of

930
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,160
open

931
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:46,400
uh acknowledgement and contact with

932
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:48,320
these other beings

933
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,599
um

934
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,280
there's really i think what you would

935
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,720
find is

936
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,359
uh an expansion of the current

937
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,119
incarnation of the culture wars that

938
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,599
we're seeing in our world today i have a

939
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,359
feeling like there will be

940
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,160
individuals who will be like yes welcome

941
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,079
uh space brothers like this is the

942
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:08,240
galactic community they are here to help

943
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,960
us

944
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,119
uh become less violent or they're here

945
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,599
to help us

946
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,079
advance and um

947
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,079
raise our frequency you hear some people

948
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,280
saying or or our vibration or

949
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:23,200
raise our consciousness in one way or

950
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,160
another

951
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,079
obviously you're going to hear that but

952
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:28,160
there's absolutely going to be a very

953
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,280
large number of people who are going to

954
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,359
see this as this is a

955
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:32,880
this is a damned invasion and we're

956
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,920
going to fight and we're going to

957
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,760
maintain our sovereignty

958
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,720
that goes beyond religion uh in terms of

959
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,280
how this would affect something like

960
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,320
christianity or

961
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,960
you know other religions um i mean i've

962
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,880
asked myself this question many many

963
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,400
times i wrote a book about it over a

964
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,640
decade ago after disclosure my co-author

965
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,359
and i asked this very question and

966
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,040
even then like like he and i had

967
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,160
different opinions on it i think but i

968
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,400
i still don't know where i stand on this

969
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,240
and then there's there's religious type

970
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:06,160
philosophies like buddhism

971
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,040
would would would zen would the zen

972
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,359
philosophy be affected by the presence

973
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,720
of other beings here i think the answer

974
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,839
would be no

975
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:15,359
i don't think so

976
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,240
um and i think would would

977
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,800
a christian

978
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,359
philosophy or christian ethics would

979
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,960
that be affected i think the answer is

980
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,920
no

981
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,440
like those are

982
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,680
those are ethical systems that we have

983
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:31,599
in place in this world

984
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,560
that

985
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,640
um you know for many people are what

986
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:37,520
really give the power to the faith

987
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,240
and the religion anyway so i don't i

988
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,599
don't think that's going to change for a

989
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:42,800
lot of people

990
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,920
um what will change is the cosmology

991
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,839
perhaps and where we think we come from

992
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,240
and what is our place in this universe

993
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,839
but you know we've that's been evolving

994
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:53,599
all along anyway i mean that's been

995
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,040
happening for the last several hundred

996
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,800
years as it is since we've hit the age

997
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:58,000
of science

998
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,040
so

999
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:01,520
i think you know having

1000
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:05,359
aliens openly acknowledged here

1001
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,480
i don't know if that's going to solve

1002
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,839
anything or change a whole lot there'll

1003
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,160
be the question was jesus an alien and

1004
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,960
that's going to be unsolvable anyway

1005
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,560
i don't know if the aliens were to say

1006
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,640
yeah actually he was one of us uh some

1007
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,920
people would believe that and a lot of

1008
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,359
people be like you're full of it they're

1009
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,960
not gonna believe that so

1010
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:22,960
uh i don't know how some of these things

1011
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,040
can get resolved and these are things

1012
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,040
that you know this is a part of what a

1013
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,760
movement does is it is it digests its

1014
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,680
understanding as it's going from the

1015
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,920
standpoint of the movement being the

1016
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,320
most important thing around bringing

1017
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,440
unity to get an end goal and the end

1018
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,200
goal that we're all looking for here is

1019
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,119
to pull this out because it's not coming

1020
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:45,280
out unless we pull it out and that's

1021
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:47,200
kind of where things are at right now

1022
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,920
from the standpoint of you know the

1023
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,920
internet warfare essentially that's

1024
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,000
going on between these intelligence

1025
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:56,320
agencies behind the scenes and this

1026
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,720
fight to see who gets to roll it

1027
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,720
out who gets to be the one that you know

1028
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,720
claims there's extraterrestrial life who

1029
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,040
gets the ones to you know roll out this

1030
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,760
technology and in the meantime right the

1031
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,359
world out here is suffering we're going

1032
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:10,640
through covid we're going through

1033
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,560
lockdowns we're going through you know

1034
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,800
what you've described as you know so

1035
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,560
poetically in the film is you know when

1036
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,520
they knife

1037
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,040
him in the back you know the american

1038
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,960
republic from that standpoint here and

1039
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:22,800
it means a lot out to the rest of the

1040
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,839
world and so that that idea of you know

1041
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,359
looking at these things from that

1042
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:30,000
perspective and understanding that it's

1043
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,200
not just about you know

1044
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,280
extraterrestrials and little green men

1045
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,000
from that you know it is a massive thing

1046
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,240
that could be confronting us you know

1047
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,079
around changing all of these belief

1048
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,400
systems overnight but also offering a

1049
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,359
lot of technology that could change the

1050
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:47,920
way we live so it is a it is this

1051
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,240
constant um you know thing for this

1052
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,160
movement to have to re-identify itself

1053
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,760
because it's constantly in this place of

1054
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,839
discovery you look at the idea of

1055
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,920
mkultra how does that have to do with

1056
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,240
ufos well there's classified projects

1057
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,640
that have been experimenting on american

1058
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,960
citizens and that's public knowledge out

1059
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,800
there you know a lot of these

1060
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:09,359
experiences a lot of these abductees are

1061
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,839
talking about other military presences

1062
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,640
there does our military have an uh you

1063
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,560
know an involvement in this and if they

1064
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,119
do we're looking at like what whitley is

1065
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,960
talking about you know what happened

1066
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,400
with the nuclear experiment or the

1067
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,560
tuskegee experiments where it's a group

1068
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,800
of people that have been victimized and

1069
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,440
need to have some type of accountability

1070
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:31,440
so what are your thoughts kind of you

1071
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,880
know moving forward around merging all

1072
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:36,880
of these different aspects that fall

1073
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,280
into the the you know the community of

1074
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,680
disclosure around these unacknowledged

1075
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,440
programs around the technology that's

1076
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,680
behind them how do we pull ourselves

1077
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,560
together and move forward

1078
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,240
yeah i mean i think what you're what

1079
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,760
sounds to me what you're

1080
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,000
moving toward in this question is like

1081
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,680
getting a sense of what is the what is

1082
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:57,839
the sum total of this reality that we're

1083
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,680
dealing with so you mentioned military

1084
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:01,119
involvement i personally believe that

1085
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,720
there is covert military

1086
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:06,480
it sounds pretty out there but i'm just

1087
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,440
going to tell people this is what i

1088
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,440
believe i believe that there is covert

1089
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,839
military collaboration with non-human

1090
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,880
groups

1091
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,319
i can't say that i know this for sure

1092
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,319
but i think that's probably the case

1093
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,560
i've talked to enough individuals who

1094
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,000
have had

1095
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,040
regression experiences and memories like

1096
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,880
definite memories of being taken to

1097
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,560
underground facilities with human and

1098
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,640
non-human captors

1099
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,720
and the non-human cap the human captors

1100
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,160
being military

1101
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,000
in certain cases and i believe these

1102
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:36,160
people so i think that that is going on

1103
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,520
and i mean i'm not the only one to get

1104
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:39,440
these types of stories but what we're

1105
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:41,200
trying to figure out is like what is

1106
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,880
what is the true

1107
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,800
nature of the entire

1108
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,160
situation that we're dealing with and

1109
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,920
that's very difficult to understand what

1110
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,920
i personally think is happening

1111
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:51,680
is that

1112
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,200
our species is vaulting into its next

1113
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,200
stage of human existence what i often

1114
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,040
have been calling the fourth stage of

1115
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:00,720
humanity you know we've been hunters and

1116
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,520
gatherers at stage one agriculture

1117
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:06,000
uh basically stage two science and

1118
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,839
industry stage three

1119
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,599
and now we're moving into essentially

1120
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,480
let's call it transhumanist stage that's

1121
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:14,160
a stage that i'm not looking forward to

1122
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,760
at all but who cares what i think this

1123
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:16,960
is happening

1124
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:20,000
so we're moving into an era of

1125
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:20,960
of

1126
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,920
devices that will surveil every single

1127
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:29,520
thing happening in your world you'll

1128
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,480
have no privacy ever again um

1129
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,119
you know algorithms figuring out your

1130
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,640
predictive modeling of your behavior

1131
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,319
better than you could predict and all of

1132
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,160
that and then the robo-apocalypse

1133
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,760
basically algorithms taking more and

1134
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,000
more human jobs like we're just moving

1135
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:46,640
into a completely different a radically

1136
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,599
different society like now all at once

1137
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,240
that's happening so in that that's going

1138
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:54,640
to be disempowering for individuals i

1139
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,680
mean unless you want to become a

1140
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,040
celebrity millionaire in a virtual

1141
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,359
reality find be my guest uh that'll

1142
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,440
happen but in actual reality i think

1143
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:03,599
people are going to be powerless but as

1144
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,560
a collective as collectives human

1145
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:07,920
species is going to have tremendous

1146
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,560
amount of power uh scientific military

1147
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:12,960
power the weapons good lord i mean

1148
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,440
so so any of these other beings that are

1149
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:17,040
observing us and i think there are

1150
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,560
multiple of them

1151
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,640
uh they they see this

1152
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,720
they see that we're we're leaping into

1153
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,640
their world we don't even realize it but

1154
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:25,839
we're doing it

1155
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:28,240
some some members of our civilization do

1156
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:30,079
realize this but most don't

1157
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:31,280
so

1158
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,560
it's not like we're just going to be

1159
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,240
powerless forever and ever like we're

1160
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,839
not going to be powerless we're actually

1161
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,839
going to have some ability to annoy a

1162
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,280
number of the people in the local

1163
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,599
community i have a feeling and so they

1164
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,000
are they're watching us and probably

1165
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,000
more than watching us they're probably

1166
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:48,319
managing us to some extent right now if

1167
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,440
they were smart that's what they would

1168
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,640
be doing

1169
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,560
uh that not necessarily in our best

1170
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,520
interest

1171
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,440
maybe it is but maybe it isn't but it's

1172
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,760
probably in theirs so there's this

1173
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:59,440
monitoring going on

1174
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,240
uh

1175
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,599
i think that's definitely happening

1176
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,240
there's collaboration at a very covert

1177
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,920
level going on and if that were to be

1178
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,680
let out publicly

1179
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:09,760
look you know i mean i i

1180
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:10,880
support

1181
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,680
the truth of ufos but let us not kid

1182
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,839
ourselves there are some truths about

1183
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:19,440
this that are probably going to be very

1184
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:20,880
very disturbing

1185
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,000
uh that will not go over well for

1186
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,880
many people i suspect that uh one of the

1187
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,640
disturbing things is probably some form

1188
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:33,200
of infiltration into our society

1189
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,560
i mean this sounds like invasion of the

1190
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,480
body snatchers or some kind of

1191
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:38,400
scare them up thing but look i mean

1192
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,920
let's just put our cards on the table

1193
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,599
here and look at this logically all

1194
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,520
right we've got many many stories of

1195
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,599
human looking beings that are not human

1196
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,520
you played one clip of mine there's a

1197
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,599
lot of those uh of these beings they

1198
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,720
look just like us but they're

1199
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,640
telepathically powerful they've got the

1200
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,040
ability to merge within our society to

1201
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,200
some extent and and if you listen to

1202
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,480
people like dave jacobs uh to actually

1203
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,240
neurologically control you and

1204
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,240
manipulate your thoughts and even if you

1205
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,960
don't want to listen to jacobs there's

1206
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,400
just countless other researchers that

1207
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,599
talk about this

1208
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,680
so so there's infiltration that's

1209
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,280
probably happened

1210
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,000
and probably within some seriously

1211
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,400
powerful organizations in the uh film

1212
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,000
you've got linda moulton howe she talks

1213
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,680
about some of her contacts one in

1214
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,560
particular dia retired guy from the dia

1215
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:27,040
who talked to her in 1999 and talked

1216
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,560
explicitly

1217
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,760
about

1218
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,520
uh

1219
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,839
the fact that any of these the three

1220
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,599
main groups that he knew of could look

1221
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,520
human at any time

1222
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,000
and he said this to her and so now

1223
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,480
that's just another story but it is just

1224
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,520
another story one of many

1225
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:46,800
so

1226
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,400
big picture here what is actually

1227
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:52,480
happening are we even in the driver's

1228
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,240
seat of this little civilization of ours

1229
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,640
or are we not and and here's another

1230
00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:00,400
thing to think about

1231
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:01,599
right now

1232
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,280
we are all in the midst of a global

1233
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,119
let's just say for what it is fascist

1234
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:08,800
revolution

1235
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,680
all right let's just be real here

1236
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,880
you can call it whatever you want you

1237
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,400
can call it authoritarian you can go

1238
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,839
totalitarian i've called it both of

1239
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,160
those i think fascist works pretty well

1240
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,079
frankly now when people use the word

1241
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,000
fascist they think like mussolini or

1242
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,400
hitler and fists pounding on podiums and

1243
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,520
cult of the leader that's not fascism

1244
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,160
that's 1930s fascism but that's not

1245
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,880
that's not an inherent quality you could

1246
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,800
have a totally bureaucratic technocratic

1247
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:36,720
boring fascism

1248
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,839
and you don't even have to have a

1249
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,680
violent fascism if you got total digital

1250
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,599
control of populations maybe you don't

1251
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,839
need to round them up with batons and

1252
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,839
guns and beat the hell out of them all

1253
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,440
the time you can just control them

1254
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,359
digitally exactly you need to worry

1255
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,359
about batons when you've got algorithms

1256
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,599
right we're about to kind of wrap up the

1257
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,440
rest of this uh conversation here and

1258
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,359
move it over to orend.tv so i'll just

1259
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:59,200
let you kind of finish up the last part

1260
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,240
of that and then we'll jump into these

1261
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,160
finishes yeah yes

1262
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,160
the point being this

1263
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,160
we're looking at this global revolution

1264
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,040
happening all around us and it's not fun

1265
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,119
and you've got to ask yourself what is

1266
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,359
the relationship between

1267
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,119
our

1268
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,119
human leadership and whoever these other

1269
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,200
beings are and do they have any say in

1270
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,119
this and are they behind any of this

1271
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:23,200
whatsoever i don't know the answer to

1272
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:24,079
this

1273
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:28,400
fools not to ask

1274
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,119
i couldn't agree more and so you know

1275
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,599
this this movement here as it's you know

1276
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:37,040
coming together more and more and

1277
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:38,960
getting traction in regards to the

1278
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:41,760
mainstream and and the grassroots then

1279
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,559
pushing against that attraction in the

1280
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,800
mainstream that it has right now this is

1281
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:49,119
a really prime time for anybody that

1282
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,160
does care about this topic to to really

1283
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,359
look at how you can become a force of

1284
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,200
digital direct action we live in a

1285
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,960
digital world right now and so a big

1286
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,720
part of that is understanding how to

1287
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,119
hashtag and group our topics together so

1288
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:05,760
we can research and observe together and

1289
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:07,839
watch for anomalies together and the

1290
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,119
observer movement and the idea of if

1291
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,119
you've experienced something if you've

1292
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,040
gone through this and you'd like to kind

1293
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:17,040
of speak out about it and talk about it

1294
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:20,000
and feel um you know a part of wanting

1295
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,680
to break this stuff open and pull out

1296
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:23,920
there use that hashtag the observers

1297
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,599
there the observers movement the

1298
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,520
observers film if you've watched the

1299
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,839
film and you feel connected to the topic

1300
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,359
share about these things share clips

1301
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,599
we've got a lot of great footage um

1302
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,280
that's being put out to all your guys's

1303
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,800
social media of all the great cutting

1304
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:38,559
room floor stuff and i think we're going

1305
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,440
to head over to the oren.tv here where

1306
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:44,160
all of the incredible like round table

1307
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:45,760
interviews that you guys did the

1308
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:48,240
individual micro exposes those are all

1309
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,079
being available on oren with i think

1310
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,160
only a dollar sign up um right now but

1311
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,160
anyhow i'll pitch it down to jimmy here

1312
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,920
and i'll meet you back over there

1313
00:50:04,549 --> 00:49:57,280
richard

1314
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:07,829
i think jimmy's muted no that's me that

1315
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:10,839
i that's my own mute

1316
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,599
button yeah

1317
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:15,200
that's mine

1318
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,079
it was it was amazing for me uh and

1319
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,319
thank you uh

1320
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,440
richards and richard uh you guys

1321
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:25,280
that's that's a las vegas thing that's

1322
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,400
like at bally's i can see it richards

1323
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,000
and richard

1324
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:31,599
this week

1325
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,240
um that was amazing for me to just sit

1326
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,640
back and and and

1327
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,960
listen to you guys just organically let

1328
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,880
that flow

1329
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,040
and i didn't want to jump in

1330
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,200
it was just too good

1331
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,440
lots of great points now i've let

1332
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,160
everybody know uh that

1333
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,160
uh in in the chat room and throughout

1334
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,160
social media that we're going to shift

1335
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:56,000
gears we're going to take this over to

1336
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,839
oren and for everybody it's a-u-y-r-n

1337
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,280
dot tv

1338
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,280
i've got the links up in social media

1339
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:05,760
when you head over to oren once we sign

1340
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,880
off here

1341
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,720
then we go live over there if you're

1342
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,319
going over there now there's nothing

1343
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:12,559
there because we haven't switched over

1344
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:15,680
um but anyway so when it ends here at

1345
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,160
the top of the page just go all the way

1346
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,240
to top you'll see a little live button

1347
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,359
with a little green antenna right there

1348
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,599
that's the live button click on that

1349
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,040
and now

1350
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:29,920
as if this wasn't good enough the really

1351
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,800
good secret conversation

1352
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,359
happens over at oran tv so i'll see you

1353
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,920
guys in a couple of minutes over at oren

1354
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,160
thank you so much our murals jimmy

1355
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:41,839
church fade to black i'm going to sign

1356
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,990
[Music]

1357
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,000
a shocking hard-hitting film exposing

1358
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,240
the darkest secrets of the fbi and cia a

1359
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,960
thousand pieces is a coup being carried

1360
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:12,960
out

1361
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,839
before our very eyes

1362
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,599
you're allowed to protest millions of

1363
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,839
people on one day in crowds yelling

1364
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:21,359
screaming but you try to run your

1365
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:22,960
business you get arrested wall street

1366
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,920
has laundered 100 trillion dollars from

1367
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,720
trafficking in children and drugs the

1368
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,480
agency has dealt drugs throughout this

1369
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,319
country for a long time

1370
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,559
mr secretary is it policy of the u.s

1371
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,400
government to reward companies that

1372
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,640
traffic in women and little girls human

1373
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:41,200
trafficking has many more victims until

1374
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,119
then the complicity of the cia the fbi

1375
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,160
the justice department

1376
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:49,760
there's corruption on both sides these

1377
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:52,880
agencies are facing a time of reckoning

1378
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,000
are we at yet another crossroads

1379
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:58,800
get ready a thousand pieces

1380
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:01,359
it was so hard

1381
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,880
to come running out of a hell that

1382
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:03,760
nobody

1383
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:11,829
my name is kathy o'brien and i'm a

1384
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,400
survivor of mk ultra

1385
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:17,040
mind control

1386
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,240
the mk ultra program was to

1387
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:22,400
ultimately control the minds of the

1388
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:25,920
population for implementing what adolf

1389
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:35,270
when girls reached age 30

1390
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,559
they were murdered or they were

1391
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,800
sacrificed

1392
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,880
i was going to be

1393
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:42,400
killed as well

1394
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:45,839
i was to go out in a blaze of glory and

1395
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:47,119
be

1396
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,349
i'm so fortunate

1397
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:58,880
that

1398
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,440
an intelligence insider

1399
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,920
who saw the kind of corruption that was

1400
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,440
going on in the highest levels of

1401
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,240
government decided to take action

1402
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,400
and rescued me

1403
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:12,319
and saved my life

1404
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,520
so that

1405
00:54:18,810 --> 00:54:15,200
we could begin

1406
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:18,820
to expose what was being done

1407
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,069
ancient teachings around the world see

1408
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,000
family and community as containers for

1409
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,319
wisdom the stability and connectivity of

1410
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:35,920
the family is seen as necessary to

1411
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,480
ensure that information travels intact

1412
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,799
from one's ancestors through the stable

1413
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,040
family and into the community where it's

1414
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,960
bundled and prepared to be sent as far

1415
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,720
into the future as possible

1416
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:49,280
but for decades a quiet war has been

1417
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:51,839
waged by globalists communists and

1418
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:54,319
social engineers with a single target in

1419
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:55,440
their sights

1420
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,240
the traditional family unit can we

1421
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:00,799
rediscover this ancient ideal of family

1422
00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:08,150
super organism the family unit coming